Daf 103 — Menachos 103 Summary

Menachos 103 – Good Morning Raboisai Machvas vs Marcheshes • Two types of Menachos: o Machvas → shallow pan → oil burns off → harder texture o Marcheshes → deep pan → oil remains → softer texture Same ingredients, different preparation Neder – Wrong Type Brought • Promised Machvas → brought Marcheshes • Or vice versa Not Yotzei → must bring again • But: o Do NOT discard o Could count as another Neder Nedavah – “Zu” Case • If he points and says “this” (Zu) : Becomes fixed • If used in wrong way: Pasul Cannot fix Amount vs Structure • Promised: o Two Menachos → brought one double - sized Not Yotzei • Promised: o One large → brought two small Not Yotzei Must match exact structure , not just quantity Vessel Requirement • Promised: o One kli → brought two o Two keilim → brought one Not valid “Eilu” – Fixed Designation • If he says “these” (Eilu) : Fully designated • Any שינוי : Pasul When Others Correct Him • If people say: “You’re doing it wrong” • If he ignores: Shows he is not relying on another Neder Becomes invalid • If he corrects: Can fix Mixing Menachos • If two Menachos: o Not fully mixed → valid o Fully mixed → Pasul Kli Shares Effect • Kli does NOT help for korban But: • Can still invalidate Timing of Specification • Designation depends on: Time of Neder (speech) • NOT when separating flour Lashon – Contradicting Words Case: • “Mincha of barley” Contradiction: • Mincha = wheat • Barley = invalid Machlokes – Which Words Count • Beis Shammai → first words count • Beis Hillel → last words count Explanation Approach • If person explains: “I didn’t know” • Then: We follow intention Bring valid Mincha Barley vs Lentils • Barley → possible confusion • Lentils → obvious mistake Difference in halacha Phrase Structure Matters • “Mincha + separate word” → can split meaning • “Minchas Se’orim” → one phrase Cannot split → may be invalid Measurement Rule • Mincha must be at least 1 Isaron Cases: • Said less → bring full • Said 1.5 → bring 2 Shitas Rebbi Shimon • If wording is contradictory: No obligation at all Maximum Size Rule • Max in one kli: 60 Isaron • If 61: Bring: o 60 in one kli o 1 in another Principle of Limits • Many halachos have exact thresholds: o 40 se’ah mikvah o Egg - size for tumah o 3×3 tefach cloth Slightly below → invalid Key Takeaways • Machvas vs Marcheshes must match exactly • “Zu / Eilu” creates fixed, unchangeable designation • Quantity alone is not enough — structure matters • Speech (Neder) defines the korban • Contradictory wording creates major halachic issues • Some mistakes can be corrected, others cannot • Halacha often depends on precise measurable thresholds Catch up, review, download previous Dafim & more: www.dafchazarah.co.uk Now available as an app (Apple, Google & Amazon) – see website for details Sponsor a day: https://dafchazarah.co.uk/sponsor לעילוי נשמת אמי מורתי רות בת הרב מנחם מנדל