Daf 110 — Chullin 110 Summary

Chullin 110 – Good Morning Raboisai K’chal – Roasting the Udder The Gemara continues the discussion of k’chal – the udder containing milk. If one wants to cook the udder: • It must first be torn so the milk can come out Why? Once the milk leaves the udder: • It has the status of milk • If it then becomes absorbed back into the meat, it can create Basar b’chalav However, if the udder is roasted: • It may be roasted even l’chatchilah without first tearing it The milk drains away during roasting rather than cooking back into the udder. Milk Inside a Calf Is Different The Gemara compares this to milk found inside the stomach of a calf after it nursed. Even though the milk is: • Gathered together inside the calf It is not like milk still inside the udder. Difference Milk inside the udder: • Has never left the mother Milk inside the calf: • Already left the mother's udder when the calf drank it Therefore: • It has the status of regular milk • It cannot be roasted together with the meat like milk still inside the udder Why Did Rav Forbid K’chal? Rebbe Elazar met Ze’iri and asked: • Who taught Rav the stringent ruling that k’chal is forbidden? He was directed to: • Rav Yitzchak bar Avdimi Rav Yitzchak explained: • Rav had not received this as the basic halacha • Rather, Rav saw a particular situation that required a chumrah Rav Found a “Wide - Open Valley” Rav arrived in a place where people: • Were not knowledgeable about Basar b’chalav He overheard one woman asking another: • How much milk she should put into meat she was cooking for her husband Rav's Reaction Rav realized: • The people did not properly understand the prohibition of Basar b’chalav Therefore: • He made a gezeirah in that place • Even k’chal, which could otherwise be permitted, was forbidden This is described as: • Finding an open valley and fencing it in The stringency was necessary because: • Allowing k’chal could lead these people to confuse it with ordinary meat and milk. Rebbe Chiya’s Teaching to Rav The Gemara explains another statement transmitted to Rav concerning: • K’chal Rebbe Chiya gave Rav a ruling without explaining every detail because: • He expected Rav to understand the precise case himself The point was that: • The statement was not necessarily intended as a general prohibition of all k’chal This helps explain: • The apparently contradictory versions of Rav’s ruling. Eating K’chal Ravin and Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef Ravin and Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef visited: • Rav Papi They were served: • K’chal Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef: • Ate it Ravin: • Refused to eat Abaye strongly criticised Ravin for refusing. Why? Rav Papi’s wife was: • The daughter of Rebbe Yitzchak Nafcha The fact that she prepared k’chal was itself strong evidence that: • This was an accepted practice in her father's home. Sura and Pumbedisa There were different local practices regarding k’chal. In Sura: • They did not eat it In Pumbedisa: • They did eat it This difference becomes important in: • The story of Rami bar Tamar. Rami bar Tamar Eating K’chal Outside Sura Rami bar Tamar, also known as Rami bar Dikulei, came: • From Pumbedisa • To Sura On Erev Yom Kippur: • The people of Sura threw away their k’chal because they did not eat it Rami: • Took the discarded k’chal • Went outside the techum • And ate it He was brought before: • Rav Chisda Rav Chisda asked: • Why are you eating k’chal when the local practice in Sura is not to eat it? Rami answered: • He came from the place of Rav Yehudah, where they ate k’chal • He had eaten it outside the techum of Sura. Where Did the Firewood Come From? Rav Chisda continued questioning him: • What did you use to roast it? Rami answered: • Grape seeds and stalks Rav Chisda asked: • Perhaps they were from stam yeinam and forbidden? Rami answered: • They were already twelve months old Rav Chisda then asked: • Perhaps they belonged to somebody else? Rami replied: • Grass was already growing among them This showed: • They had been abandoned by their owner. Why Was Rami Not Wearing Tefillin? Rav Chisda noticed: • Rami was not wearing tefillin He asked him why. Rami answered: • He had an intestinal illness He quoted Rav Yehudah: • Someone suffering from an intestinal illness is exempt from tefillin. What About His Tzitzis? Rav Chisda then noticed: • Rami was wearing a garment without tzitzis Rami explained: • The garment was borrowed He again quoted Rav Yehudah: • A borrowed garment is exempt from tzitzis for thirty days. Punishing Someone for Kibbud Av V’Eim While Rami was before Rav Chisda, another man was brought in: • For failing to properly honour his parents They were preparing: • To punish him Rami told them: • Leave him Why? Regarding Kibbud Av V’Eim, the Torah itself states the reward: • “So that your days will be lengthened” Rami explained that where the Torah explicitly gives: • The reward for a positive mitzvah Beis Din does not impose this punishment for failing to perform it. Rav Chisda – “I See You Are Very Sharp” After all these exchanges, Rav Chisda told Rami: • “I see that you are very sharp” Rami replied: • If you had been in the place of Rav Yehudah, I would have shown you even more of my sharpness. Throughout the discussion, Rami successfully applied: • The rulings of Rav Yehudah • To each question Rav Chisda raised. כבד – Liver What Is the Halacha of Liver? Rebbe Elazar was told: When you go to Eretz Yisrael, ask: • What is the halacha regarding liver? The issue: • Liver is full of blood If it is cooked: • The blood comes out The question is whether: • The blood can then become absorbed back into the liver • Or enter other meat cooking with it. Rebbe Ami Ate Cooked Liver Rebbe Elazar saw: • Liver that had been cooked for Rebbe Ami And: • Rebbe Ami ate it When he reported this to Abaye, Abaye said: • That was not the question Why? Abaye already knew: • The liver itself does not become forbidden from its own blood The real question was: • What happens to other meat cooked together with the liver? Could the blood leaving the liver: • Enter and prohibit the other meat? Liver Prohibits but Is Not Prohibited The Gemara brings the Mishnah: • A liver can prohibit other food • But the liver itself does not become prohibited Meaning Blood leaving the liver can: • Enter other meat • And prohibit it However: • The liver itself does not become asur from its own blood This resolves the question concerning: • Liver cooked together with other meat. Key Chazarah • K’chal may be roasted without tearing because the milk drains away; cooking is different because the milk can leave and become reabsorbed. • Milk inside a calf after nursing is regular milk because it has already left the mother's udder. • Rav prohibited k’chal in a particular place because the people were ignorant of Basar b’chalav — he “found an open valley and fenced it in.” • Ravin refused the k’chal served in Rav Papi’s house, while Rav Yitzchak bar Yosef ate it; Abaye criticised Ravin. • In Sura they did not eat k’chal, while in Pumbedisa they did. • Rami bar Tamar came from Pumbedisa to Sura and ate discarded k’chal outside the techum. • Rav Chisda questioned Rami about the k’chal, his fuel, tefillin and tzitzis; Rami answered each question using the rulings of Rav Yehudah. • Rami stopped the punishment of a man for failing to honour his parents because the Torah explicitly states the reward for Kibbud Av V’Eim. • Rav Chisda praised Rami for his sharpness. • The liver itself does not become forbidden from its blood, but blood leaving the liver can prohibit other meat cooked with it. 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