Daf 69 — Chullin 69 Summary

Chullin 69 – Good Morning Raboisai בן פקועה – Limb Coming Out Gemara: Case: • Fetus sticks out a limb • Then brings it back in מחלוקת רב : • That limb is אסור Reason: • “ יש לידה לאברים ” → limb considered born רבי יוחנן : • No such concept Limb remains: • מותר Two Lashonos in Rav Same idea expressed differently: • Limb itself אסור • Or: limb was “born” נפק״מ If only part of limb came out: • Does whole limb become אסור ? • Or only exposed part? Combining Limbs ( רבי יוחנן ) Case: • Different limbs come out at different times Question Do they combine to majority? Answer No Each time it returns: • No “birth” occurred Cannot combine Chopped Limbs Case Each limb: • Comes out and is cut off Question Do they combine to רוב ? Answer No Birth must be: • One continuous event Mishnah – Cutting Inside If limb of fetus is cut inside womb : דין מותר after שחיטה But limb of mother: • אסור (אבר מן החי) יסוד Fetus = separate halachic unit Mother = full איסור applies כלל of Mishnah “ זה הכלל ”: חידוש Even if many parts removed: Remaining fetus inside: • מותר Not considered born Mechitzah Question ( קדשים ) Does Beis Hamikdash boundary help? Question If limb exits womb but still inside: • Azarah / Yerushalayim Maybe still “inside”? Answer No Only mechitzah that matters: • Mother יסוד Fetus boundary = womb only Shechita Split Case One סימן cut Limb comes out Then second סימן cut Question Does second סימן help the limb? Answer It helps for: • Removing טומאה But not for: • Permitting that limb בן פקועה with Missing Limb Animal born with forbidden limb Question What about offspring? צדדים Maybe: • איסור spreads to offspring Or: • Ignore it Discussion Compare to: • Blood / forbidden fats in all animals מסקנה : Not resolved clearly בן פקועה × Regular Animal If they mate Problem Offspring: • Needs שחיטה • But also cannot be שחט properly Result: • Complex halachic issue Milk of בן פקועה Question: • Is milk permitted? צד Milk usually permitted But here: • No possible שחיטה תיקו מקור בן פקועה דרשה : “ וכל בהמה… אותה תאכלו ” לימוד Animal inside animal: • מותר Mother vs Fetus If you cut inside: חילוק Mother’s limb → אסור Fetus limb → מותר Reason Pasuk requires: • Mother must be whole Strange Birth Case Cow gives birth to: • Bird - like creature Question Does it need סימני כשרות ? יסוד Being inside mother: • Gives היתר תמורה & מעשר בהמה Comparison: • Only full animals count Rule Not applicable to: • Limbs • Fetuses Final יסוד • Limb leaving = potential birth • Rav vs רבי יוחנן on partial birth • Only womb defines boundary • שחיטה can remove טומאה but not all איסורים • בן פקועה creates complex cases in offspring • Fetus has independent halachic status • Not all rules apply equally to parts vs whole Key Takeaways • There is a dispute whether a limb leaving the womb is considered “birth” • Rav says the limb becomes forbidden, Rabbi Yochanan disagrees • Limbs coming out at different times do not combine into a full birth • Cutting a limb of a fetus inside the womb is permitted after shechita • The only halachic boundary for a fetus is its mother, not external walls • Shechita can remove tumah even if it cannot fully permit a limb • Ben pekuah cases become complex when dealing with offspring • The daf highlights key principles of boundaries, status, and halachic identity • • Catch up, review, download previous Dafim & more: • https://www.dafchazarah.co.uk • Now available as an app (Apple, Google & Amazon): https://dafchazarah.co.uk/download • Sponsor a day: https://dafchazarah.co.uk/sponsor • To receive the daf summary daily join our group: https://chat.whatsapp.com/L4AiVVxQwYqLRh4RtMAlGE • Daf Chazarah Bot (Request any PDF – past or current): Save the number +44 7427 857802 and message to get instant access • Direct link: https://dafchazarah.co.uk/whatsapp • לעילוי נשמת אמי מורתי רות בת הרב מנחם מנדל לע״נ הרבנית הצדקנית ממעזיבוז׳ מרת רחל בת מתתיהו ע״ה